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Recap of Jan. 6, 2018 Book Discussion: They Can't Kill us All by Wesley Lowery

Book Discussion of They Can’t Kill Us All: Ferguson, Baltimore, and a New Era in America’s Racial Justice Movement by Wesley Lowery.

On the day of our discussion, there was still snow on the ground from a major winter storm and it was only eleven degrees. In spite of the freezing weather and difficult driving conditions, four of us managed to meet.  The one criticism we all shared was the “jumping around in time” in an otherwise great book.
Our facilitator stated that the purpose of the book was to explain how activism of this generation started, an accounting of how millennials got involved.
Fortunately for us, one of our members had shared a podcast from the Enoch Pratt Free Public Library in Baltimore, MD. The podcast series is called Writers Live and the particular podcast featured Wesley Lowery recorded Mar. 7, 2017.


In the podcast, Mr. Lowery relates that the purpose of his book is to tell the stories of the individuals he met while covering the protests.
He states, “These stories did not come to light because of the mainstream media. The people of Ferguson insisted on having this story told. The people now had the tools to tell this story:  cell phone cameras and video apps. I do think there is a role for the journalist. We have to be the muscle behind the people, forcing the mainstream media to pay attention.

Black men are 6% of the population but make up 24% of people killed by the police.

One quarter of those people are in the midst of a mental health crisis. Ironically, police having body cams haven’t helped. In fact, there was a huge spike in killings by the police in 2016. The cameras don’t deter shooting. Camera footage shows more gray area. We can see that the stories are much more complicated.
The data backs up what African Americans have telling us for generations and we did not believe them.

The first question from the audience in the podcast had to do with toy guns. Mr. Lowery answered that the situation could not be explained away. A white person has to do so much more to get killed.”

In our book Discussion, our facilitator brought up the topic of the toy gun in the shooting of Tamir Rice. She referred to Prosecutor Timothy J. McGinty’s announcement that the police officer who killed Tamir Rice would not be convicted on page 108 in the book: 

“The outcome will not cheer us. His (Tamir’s) size made him look older…” And now, after making everyone wait for more than a year, the prosecutors were saying that under the letter of the law Tamir’s death was not a crime, and that no one would be prosecuted. It would only be a matter of time before people were taking to the streets in Cleveland."

Our facilitator also mentioned something called “The Dance of the Lemons.”  She says that the same way that bad teachers get sent from school to school, bad police officers get sent from department to department.  She pointed out the following:

p. 75 “…it was revealed that Cleveland Police had hired Tim Loehmann, the officer who shot Rice, without checking his references or running a serious background check. Had the city done that, they would have uncovered job reviews from the suburban department where Loehmann once worked that describe him as “weepy” and “distracted.”

Another question brought up in the podcast had to do with police officers being properly trained to deal with someone who is mentally ill. Mr. Lowery responded that many officers are trained to yell or pull a gun. This is the worse response to someone who is mentally ill.

The next question in the podcast had to do with the response to Black Lives Matter with the refrain “All Lives Matter.” Mr. Lowery answered that Black Lives Matter is an assertion to how in this society, black lives have not mattered. The responses have been ignorant. When we say breast cancer matters, we’re not saying prostate cancer doesn’t matter. These retorts of” All Lives Matter” show mainstream feelings being threatened.

Mr. Lowery continued, Bernie Madoff stole 65 million dollars – no one killed him. The men killed by police haven’t done anything close. In a traffic stop, the person runs. If a gun falls out of their pocket, the police feel they have to kill the suspect because he saw a gun. We don’t train officers to slow these situations down. They already have the license plate of the vehicle; there is no need to chase.

The last question in the podcast had do with the connection between the military and police officers. Who are driving these tanks? Mr. Lowery states that when police departments are given this equipment, they are told explicitly not to use them for crowd control. Whether this statement is true or not, Angela Davis wrote a great deal about the military build-up of police departments in Freedom is a Constant Struggle: Ferguson, Palestine, and the Foundations of a Movement. Her position is that police departments were given free military equipment and training to fight “terror.”

We’re reading a biography of Langston Hughes for our February meeting. The new date for this discussion is Feb. 24th at 12 noon. You can choose whatever biography (or autobiography) you’d like to read for this discussion. I’m actually reading a version for teens. The Langston Hughes biography is in conjunction with our Black History Month celebration and it fits in with the cultural and social justice theme of our group.  There will be a film presentation about Langston Hughes at 1:30 and I hope that you all will consider staying for the film.




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